Comments on: Psychiatrists:Why do most of you take patient side effects so non-chalantly? http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly Dry Mouth Solutions Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:15:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: intelligent_friendlistener http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1527 intelligent_friendlistener Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:56:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1527 The side effects are usually receeding. That means that after your system stabilizes and adjusts to the medication, the side effects lessen or disappear entirely. Also, the list of side effects has the percentages of those having each one and those taking sugar pills having the same ones. So some are not really there. The way these medications work with others like cholesterol, heart, blood pressure, and even multi vitamins is not well documented or explained. I went thru about 15 medications before I picked the one that I could best live with. I still hate it, but without it, we have no life. There is nothing a doctor or psychiatrist can do about that, and their ego won't often let them admit their shortcomings. The fact that drug companies do this to us and to an extent to them, and then hold us for ransom like prices, says we should attack the drug companies first. Hope this helps. Also watch out for over medication. Erectile dysfunction, slurred speech, and twitching excessively are signs that you are over medicated. They tend to do this if you are a problem patent (complain too much about little things) (are a cutter, or frequently "attempt" suicide as a way of acting out). Only complain about those things that seriously impact your ability to function. Function in this case is getting up, washing, and dressing, and getting out or doing something each day. Can you cook and clean for yourself. The whole objective is to allow you to function as much as necessary to take care of yourself without you being a danger to yourself or others. If you can't have sex right now, that is not important:: If memory is a little fuzzy, that is not important. You need to take charge of your treatment in a reasonable fashion and target function, and then you can go after other things one at a time. Mounding each big problem with a stack of little ones does you or your psychiatrist no good. Make and set goals. Again, sorry for being long and do hope this helps.<br><b>References : </b><br> The side effects are usually receeding. That means that after your system stabilizes and adjusts to the medication, the side effects lessen or disappear entirely. Also, the list of side effects has the percentages of those having each one and those taking sugar pills having the same ones. So some are not really there. The way these medications work with others like cholesterol, heart, blood pressure, and even multi vitamins is not well documented or explained. I went thru about 15 medications before I picked the one that I could best live with. I still hate it, but without it, we have no life. There is nothing a doctor or psychiatrist can do about that, and their ego won’t often let them admit their shortcomings. The fact that drug companies do this to us and to an extent to them, and then hold us for ransom like prices, says we should attack the drug companies first. Hope this helps. Also watch out for over medication. Erectile dysfunction, slurred speech, and twitching excessively are signs that you are over medicated. They tend to do this if you are a problem patent (complain too much about little things) (are a cutter, or frequently "attempt" suicide as a way of acting out). Only complain about those things that seriously impact your ability to function. Function in this case is getting up, washing, and dressing, and getting out or doing something each day. Can you cook and clean for yourself. The whole objective is to allow you to function as much as necessary to take care of yourself without you being a danger to yourself or others. If you can’t have sex right now, that is not important:: If memory is a little fuzzy, that is not important. You need to take charge of your treatment in a reasonable fashion and target function, and then you can go after other things one at a time. Mounding each big problem with a stack of little ones does you or your psychiatrist no good. Make and set goals. Again, sorry for being long and do hope this helps.
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]]> By: Geoffrey B http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1526 Geoffrey B Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:39:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1526 It comes down to making a choice between the symptoms of your illness, which are not likely to go away on their own, or the side effects of the medication, which usually do subside. It's not a fair deal by any means, and I know from experience what it's like. Mental health medications are far from perfect, and we certainly do have a lot of room for improvement, but at the same time we've also come a long ways. Because the side effects for meds can be so unpleasant, I think they should be reserved as a last resort, but that's just me. I know there are plenty of docs out there that hand them out without barely talking to you; guess what? These are bad doctors, and its time to go see a new one. Depending on the illness, there's almost always some alternatives to medication to try out first. Also, there are usually different kinds of medications to try, some of which you may tolerate better. If your doctor isn't willing to discuss with you about these alternatives, I highly suggest finding a new one that will. Hang in there, and I hope you feel better soon.<br><b>References : </b><br>On my way towards psychiatry. It comes down to making a choice between the symptoms of your illness, which are not likely to go away on their own, or the side effects of the medication, which usually do subside. It’s not a fair deal by any means, and I know from experience what it’s like. Mental health medications are far from perfect, and we certainly do have a lot of room for improvement, but at the same time we’ve also come a long ways.

Because the side effects for meds can be so unpleasant, I think they should be reserved as a last resort, but that’s just me. I know there are plenty of docs out there that hand them out without barely talking to you; guess what? These are bad doctors, and its time to go see a new one.

Depending on the illness, there’s almost always some alternatives to medication to try out first. Also, there are usually different kinds of medications to try, some of which you may tolerate better. If your doctor isn’t willing to discuss with you about these alternatives, I highly suggest finding a new one that will.

Hang in there, and I hope you feel better soon.
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On my way towards psychiatry.

]]> By: Miami Vice http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1525 Miami Vice Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:06:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1525 yeah i know what you mean. i have to be honest, you can't really trust them. they give you pills like it's some sort of candy. i don't think they really care..<br><b>References : </b><br> yeah i know what you mean. i have to be honest, you can’t really trust them. they give you pills like it’s some sort of candy. i don’t think they really care..
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]]> By: mrcricket1932 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1524 mrcricket1932 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:00:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1524 That is their only ammunition.. take that away and they remain literally helpless. Is one reason for the high incidence of suicide in that profession... they can't face failure. They came out of school with high hopes of saving the world and very soon became deflated with the responses. I have worked in psyche hospitals and see the meds rolling out but very little discussion one on one. Then it is very limited in time<br><b>References : </b><br> That is their only ammunition.. take that away and they remain literally helpless. Is one reason for the high incidence of suicide in that profession… they can’t face failure. They came out of school with high hopes of saving the world and very soon became deflated with the responses.

I have worked in psyche hospitals and see the meds rolling out but very little discussion one on one. Then it is very limited in time
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]]> By: kourtina1 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1522 kourtina1 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:42:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1522 i think u gave the answer yourself :)<br><b>References : </b><br> i think u gave the answer yourself :)
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]]> By: petrel http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1521 petrel Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:32:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1521 you go to a psychiatrist for treatment. it is a professional relationship between a doctor and patient. you are not there to discuss the health of the psychiatrist.<br><b>References : </b><br> you go to a psychiatrist for treatment. it is a professional relationship between a doctor and patient. you are not there to discuss the health of the psychiatrist.
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]]> By: bumbleleigh http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1520 bumbleleigh Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:05:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1520 People don't typically have EVERY side effect. Your doctor (well, depending on how serious of a psychiatric issue you have) can't force you to take prescriptions, you and your doctor weigh the risks and benefits together and decide whether or not to take the med. Also, psychiatric medicine is very individual specific so it can take a few months to find the right dosage for you, during which you might have more side effects than you will during the final outcome. And even if you do have a few side effects during the end, they typically will not last the entire treatment time. Having dry mouth is typically better than being *insert illness*, and much more temporary. Psychiatric illnesses arent the flu, and usually won't go away by themselves. *Edit* Again, the choice to take medications (unless youre admitted to a hospital and its out of your control) is a JOINT decision between doctor and patient. It is your responsibility to ask for a different dosage and tell about your problems. If youre doctor treats you like a label, you need to find a different doctor....Ive never had that experience.<br><b>References : </b><br> People don’t typically have EVERY side effect. Your doctor (well, depending on how serious of a psychiatric issue you have) can’t force you to take prescriptions, you and your doctor weigh the risks and benefits together and decide whether or not to take the med. Also, psychiatric medicine is very individual specific so it can take a few months to find the right dosage for you, during which you might have more side effects than you will during the final outcome. And even if you do have a few side effects during the end, they typically will not last the entire treatment time.

Having dry mouth is typically better than being *insert illness*, and much more temporary. Psychiatric illnesses arent the flu, and usually won’t go away by themselves.

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Again, the choice to take medications (unless youre admitted to a hospital and its out of your control) is a JOINT decision between doctor and patient. It is your responsibility to ask for a different dosage and tell about your problems. If youre doctor treats you like a label, you need to find a different doctor….Ive never had that experience.
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]]> By: beerbohms http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly/comment-page-1#comment-1519 beerbohms Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:28:59 +0000 http://www.dry--mouth.com/dry-mouth-syndrome/psychiatristswhy-do-most-of-you-take-patient-side-effects-so-non-chalantly#comment-1519 I totally agree w/ you. I think that most shrinks are only in the profession for the money and are pill pushers, since they don't know what else to do!<br><b>References : </b><br> I totally agree w/ you. I think that most shrinks are only in the profession for the money and are pill pushers, since they don’t know what else to do!
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