Conservative Caller – Why Should I Pay For Someones’ Health?
August 28, 2009 - 7:19 pm
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August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Castellan – …
Castellan – absolutely not! I also don’t think the wealthy should pay more taxes. I believe everyone is already paying their fair share and the government should learn how to better allocate the resources they have.
Pork-belly spending for 2009, according to the Citizens Against Government Waste, is roughly $19 billion. That’s billion with a b.
With that much wasteful spending what makes you think raising taxes is going to make anything better?
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
So, you’re saying …
So, you’re saying the poor should pay more taxes, then?
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Medicare and …
Medicare and Medicade are BANKRUPT, so the Gov’t can’t run things “efficiently”. If we just got rid of those that are in this country ILLEGALLY, than that alone would take away about 20 million of those people not coveed by any HC. Therefore, us the taxpayer wouldn’t have to pay for them!!!
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
The problem with …
The problem with your argument is that your comparing a broken system to something else. Government care looks efficient compared to our current system because our current system is broke. A horse is a lot more efficient then a broken down car. But when my car brakes down i fix it, i dont buy a horse.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Do you have any …
Do you have any evidence to back up any of your claims or is this self-serving speculation? Why is it that Americans pay so much more for health care if single payer models are so much more expensive?
I think the only claim that is supported is the number of Americans citizens who are insured.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Around 80% of …
Around 80% of people in America have health coverage. The rest are mostly either illegal immigrants or people who just not chosen to buy health coverage for whatever reason (young people who don’t think they need it, for example).
The very small percentage left composed of poor people who cannot afford health coverage are still going to get care when they need it – they’re not dieing in the streets.
Sorry, but it is not worth ing over everyone else just for them.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Nice going, idiot. …
Nice going, idiot. You completely missed that I already answered that in my first point. Yes, we are still paying some for emergency room fees, but we will most certainly have to pay substantially more for a whole public-care apparatus.
Also, I’m not uming that that everyone without health insurance is lazy, I’m just saying a good chunk of those who don’t are.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Mate Sam hit the …
Mate Sam hit the nail on the head, it’s the question I’ve put to a number of conservatives. Just when is it OK for govt to be involved and from my point it’s only when it helps to serve the conservatives needs and points of view.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
This is the only …
This is the only video of the Young Mongols that I actually like.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
LOL him!
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LOL him!
250,000 dollars a year?
Ohh boo whooooo!
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
jimalbi – c’mon, …
jimalbi – c’mon, really? What’s wrong with a bit of socialism?
You may be confused. Socialism is an economic system unlike Communism which is a political system. Communists are socialists.
Even Vladimir Putin warned the world about socialism in his address to the World Economic Forum earlier this year.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I don’t understand …
I don’t understand how you, right-wind americans think.
What’s wrong with a bit of socialism? Where is the evil? We are not unists.
Many great countries have some forms of socialist policies. What’s the evil with a social solidarity hosted by our governments? At 100k/y, you begin to be very comfortable, depending on the city you live. Here we begin to pay our part at 20k. Somebody have to pay someway for our social services. And it’s normal that the more you earn, the more you contribute.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I have an issue …
I have an issue with the taxes for the wealthy being increased. Before any conclusions are made my wife and I combined make less than $100K/year so we’re not wealthy. However, we do have aspirations of being wealthy. One day, through hard work and sacrifice and God’s blessing we’ll be there. When we reach that goal we don’t want to be penalized for the sake of being wealthy. Taking more from the wealthy and giving it to the poor, by mandate, is the basic ideology of socialism.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Not so cure about …
Not so cure about national defense but I really agrea with the rest. and more should be put on space exploration.
But what I meant is than in Canada we are not deprived of our liberties because we pay more taxes. And we have services (maybe with some isues…) for the taxes we pay.
Sure we always have to work to gain in efficency, but it alway will be.
Being relatively more taxed is not the end of the world as long as you have for what you gave. Scandinavian countries knows that.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
jimalbi – no …
jimalbi – no offense taken but your statement that higher taxes equate to lower crime is without merit. Is there evidence to prove that? I’m asking because I don’t know.
I won’t pretend to understand the differences between our two countries in regard to taxation, crime rates, health care, or politics.
But I will say that more of our taxes go toward national defense, space exploration, disease control, research & development, & other programs that benefit not only the US but the entire world.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I was not trying to …
I was not trying to insult you.
And no society is perfect. As you said.
What i meant is we are more taxed in Canada than you in the US. But our social security net is much more complete here to. And our crime rate much lower.
But there is still many critics here who would like our system to be like yours.
But those people wil ask even more coercitive measures against crime when it will get higher. than they will cray against the spents of the state in those jail…
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
jimalbi – What!? …
jimalbi – What!? Your statement makes absolutely no sense.
Here in the US we also pay taxes, some more than others, and we still have some of the highest crime rates in the world.
Do we as a society live comfortably as a result of paying those taxes? For the most part, yes. However, no society is perfect.
Your umption that I’d prefer to buy a plasma TV to helping someone out that I don’t know is partially true. I do “prefer” to do that but I don’t.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
You begin to be …
You begin to be wealthy when you can significantly improve your quality of life and when having enough money for a good food isn’t an issue anymore. When you make more money than you need for the basics needs for an average quality of life.
But as long as the majority of the people in your country live in the similar condition, it can be tricky to define it that way. So the bar should be put significantly higher than this level.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
True.
But …
True.
But shouldn’t be seen as a cowardice or criminal act.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
And there will …
And there will always be lazy ers to take profit of it but guess what? They won’t have to steal my tv to feed!
In USA you pay billions for warfare, but you don’t wanna pay for the health of your own neighbours? There is something sick in this reasonning…
The government should be a tool for equality of chances between citizens.
I have been raised by a mother on welfare. But now I’m electrician and my brothers are fiscalist and entrepreneur mecanucian. And we pay back taxes…
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
By providing by …
By providing by your taxes money, health and a roof, you diminish the criminality which is a direct gain for your society.
By only counting on charity to help the poorest, it will always be insuficient. Because you wil always prefer buying a plasma TV than to provide cares to those you don’t know about.
I’m canadian, and even if the taxe are high, our life quality remain high too.
With my taxes, I bought civilisation and made me & ma family safer.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Thanks Vigilante …
Thanks Vigilante but for me, it goes beyond that. I’d like to be able to not only afford a comfortable lifestyle for myself & my family but I’d also like to be able to use my money to help others; voluntarily, not by mandate.
I’d like to be able to help feed starving people around the world, start a charity, give scholarships to those who can’t afford college, etc.
I know I can do those things now to a certain extent but being wealthy allows me to do so much more.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Awesome Video.
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Awesome Video.
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August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
suicide is the only …
suicide is the only way one can default on the social contract – is this statement true, false or incorrect at its root?
August 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
It is a fine …
It is a fine strawman, isn’t it? The funniest part about it is that these people are often eligible for Medicaid when they need it, so the Conservatives are already paying for their health care. It is the working class and small business owners, the ones who are contributing to society economically, who are doing without.
I often point out that Walt Disney went bankrupt three times in his life while building up Disney Inc. Monetary worth at a given moment tells nothing about the individual.